Windows/Desktop switching no longer working

[Sayoung1984]

ExplorerPather 22621.1922.56.1
Win11 22621.2070 WFEP 1000.22659.1000.0

Alt+Tab not working
Win+Tab not working
Task view button on Taskbar not workinig

[getify]

I was force updated (not some optional preview update that I chose) for windows 11 today (Tue Aug 8), and now all alt+tab and taskview/desktop switching is broken. When I uninstall Explorer Patcher, all those windows features work again. I then reinstalled Explorer Patcher and they broke again.

As far as I can tell, I do not have the windows update that is referenced in that link.

[Sayoung1984]

preview update

No, not preview update. I've sepcifically put the version number on.
And yes, same issue as getify, on both desktop PC (NV gpu) /laptop (AMD intergrated GPU)

[AgFlore]

switch back to "Windows 11 taskbar" (before new version of EP gets out) and the problem shall be appeased.

[kastoestoramadus]

Win+Tab not working and breaks explorer process. Needs restart.
Without using it Alt+Tab works.
I'm using up to date Windows 11, Dell Inspiron 5521.

[exodus444]

Win+Tab not working and breaks explorer process. Needs restart. Without using it Alt+Tab works. I'm using up to date Windows 11, Dell Inspiron 5521.

Confirming it

[rdeforest]

Switching to the Win 11 taskbar and downgrading to Win 10 (suggested on #1802) are not options for me. The only feature I use EP for is moving the task bar to the top of the screen.

[pyrates999]

Switching to the Win 11 taskbar and downgrading to Win 10 (suggested on #1802) are not options for me. The only feature I use EP for is moving the task bar to the top of the screen.

Try this: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/windows-11-taskbar-move-to-top

[rdeforest]

Switching to the Win 11 taskbar and downgrading to Win 10 (suggested on #1802) are not options for me. The only feature I use EP for is moving the task bar to the top of the screen.

Try this: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/windows-11-taskbar-move-to-top

That method stopped working a long time ago, which is how I ended up installing EP.

[SiteSplat]

Start11 app allows you to move the taskbar if Im nit mistaken... I would check that out if that's the only option you use...

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[Tiagoquix]

The issues were resolved on my Windows 11 after deleting the keys IsUndockedAssetAvailable (located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ExplorerPatcher\twinui.pcshell) and OSBuild (located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ExplorerPatcher). After that, I restarted EP and about 3 minutes later I received a notification of symbols being downloaded. After that, I restarted EP again and had no more problems.

[olaviinha]

Confirming that win+tab & alt+tab (Windows 11 switcher) no longer work, if Taskbar style: Windows 10. Task View (win+tab) no longer works via taskbar button either: nothing happens when you click it.

• ❌ Suggested Reinstall + reg key removals fix for stability issues -> no effect on this problem.
• ❌ Suggested Delete keys IsUndocked... and OSBuild -> no effect on this problem.
• 🚫 Suggested switch back to "Windows 11 taskbar" — well, this does fix the problem at hand, but as already stated, disables a bunch of other preferences (that I too use EP for).

🔧 Currently you can restore alt+tab functionality by changing Window switcher style to Simple Window Switcher. This has no effect on win+tab.

If anybody has a fix that restores Task View in Taskbar style: Windows 10, that would be dandy.

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....or if anybody happens to know where else than Task View you can reorder desktops and – more importantly – toggle "Show this window on all desktops", I would much appreciate that information as well. I normally use more direct shortcuts for navigating desktops/windows anyway, but Task View is a must for pinning windows across virtual desktops and reordering virtual desktops, afaik.

🔧 Workaround for now: switch to Taskbar style: Windows 11 -> Restart File Explorer -> use Task View to make your windows sticky as usual, order desktops as usual -> switch back to Taskbar style: Windows 10 -> Restart File Explorer. Those settings will persist in Windows 10 mode, you just can't change them in it.

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Probably related issues:

• win+a (Quick Settings) no longer works.
• Volume bar no longer appears on screen when changing Windows volume (with keyboard/mouse shortcut keys)

[pauljackman2023]

After the windows update on 10/08/23 the windows 10 taskview has stopped working on my PC. It works in windows 11 mode but I cannot have ungrouped windows with labels in windows 11 mode. below is my current windows build info & device info

Edition Windows 11 Home
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎21/‎09/‎2022
OS build 22621.2134
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22659.1000.0

Device name HP-Laptop
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx 2.30 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (13.9 GB usable)

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch Pen and touch support with 10 touch points

[voomdoon]

new occurrence of #525

[keith0305]

Happens to me. Need a fix or workaround asap.

[pyrates999]

duplicate of: #1687

Please close this one.

[getify]

This isn't merely a duplicate, because the issue is NOT only for those with insider builds or preview updates. As #1798 also shows, this crash is now affecting those with the latest main windows 11 update release.

[pyrates999]

It started with a preview update, that was then replaced with a regular update. So yes, it is a duplicate.

[Sayoung1984]

Update, I also found the system brightness / audio volume indicator went missing. I seems EP broke some Windows GUI layer.

[vichaunter]

The issues were resolved on my Windows 11 after deleting the keys IsUndockedAssetAvailable (located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ExplorerPatcher\twinui.pcshell) and OSBuild (located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ExplorerPatcher). After that, I restarted EP and about 3 minutes later I received a notification of symbols being downloaded. After that, I restarted EP again and had no more problems.

Actually this worked partially, just delete that 2, open the explorer patcher properties, click on restart, and started working properly alt tab, but if you press win+tab then stops working again

[getify]

It started with a preview update, that was then replaced with a regular update. So yes, it is a duplicate.

well, the issue you linked to as this being a duplicate of, has not really acknowledged that this is now related to the full release windows update. so anyone who reads that thread and tries to follow advice -- or your dismissal of "don't use preview updates" -- is not getting accurate/relevant/timely information from THAT thread as compared to here.

so unless/until THAT thread has such information added, I will continue to disagree with you this thread is merely a duplicate. THIS THREAD is presently adding more current and relevant information for people who are running across this problem now. it's not really relevant that THAT thread (in its current form) was helpful 2-3 weeks ago for a different (related) problem.

[olaviinha]

It may be a duplicate by symptoms and have a similar cause, but it appears well and correctly acknowledged in #1687 that the cause was a preview update, which we all know are not supported. Hence any outdated conclusions and information carried by #1687 should not be linked to this issue anymore. Github issues carry information besides problem and possible solution, and people experiencing the issue or developing solutions for the issue read through that information. The outdated issue should be closed instead imo. It's prone to lead readers astray.

That's what I prefer as a developer myself anyway, if the issue evolves and information in the old ones get outdated and irrelevant.

[pyrates999]

You are not helping by keeping duplicate issues opened.

[war59312]

Only breaks on me if:

Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22621.2134 (Aug 2023 updates: KB5029263 )

Taskbar style: Windows 10 (this alone is break volume popup, as in new popup when changing volume now)
Show Task view button enabled
I click on Task View, now alt tab is broken. Also breaks if I do Windows Key + Tab.
If I restart explore this happens all over again. So for now, just not using task view.

[pyrates999]

Only breaks on me if:

Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22621.2134 (Aug 2023 updates: KB5029263 )

Taskbar style: Windows 10 (this alone is break volume popup, as in new popup when changing volume now) Show Task view button enabled I click on Task View, now alt tab is broken. Also breaks if I do Windows Key + Tab. If I restart explore this happens all over again. So for now, just not using task view.

The alt+tab and winkey+tab not working has already been reported here: #1687

Work around: set to use windows 11 taskbar instead of windows 10 taskbar.

This needs to be closed.

[Sayoung1984]

Only breaks on me if:
Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22621.2134 (Aug 2023 updates: KB5029263 )
Taskbar style: Windows 10 (this alone is break volume popup, as in new popup when changing volume now) Show Task view button enabled I click on Task View, now alt tab is broken. Also breaks if I do Windows Key + Tab. If I restart explore this happens all over again. So for now, just not using task view.

The alt+tab and winkey+tab not working has already been reported here: #1687

Work around: set to use windows 11 taskbar instead of windows 10 taskbar.

This needs to be closed.

Switching to Win10 taskbar is the reason most people using EP on Win11, and now it's having issues. Close the report won't make it be fixed.

[Alexibad]

Like getify I experience the issue after Windows updates
2023-08 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 22H2 for x64 (KB5028948)
2023-08 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029263)
(I also had "2023-08 .NET 6.0.21 Security Update for x64 Client (KB5029688)" at the same time, but getify does not mention this.)

Can confirm the description of olaviinha, espcecially WIN+TAB works except for Windows Switcher Windows 11 style

[pyrates999]

@Poopooracoocoo this needs to be closed, duplicate of #1687

[Poopooracoocoo]

Thank you for reopening, This issue is affecting main branch windows users and should not be closed as it is not a duplicate of other issues posts.

Looks like a dupe of #1687 to me :/

[mwdle]

Looks like a dupe of #1687 to me :/

Sorry I didnt give #1687 a proper readthrough. This issue definitely seems to be a dupe of #1687, I agree.