Rename to rails-template?

[croaky]

We have these other templates for languages and frameworks:

• https://github.com/thoughtbot/android-template
• https://github.com/thoughtbot/django-template
• https://github.com/thoughtbot/ios-template
• https://github.com/thoughtbot/react-native-template

Opened thoughtbot/go-template#10 to rename Laces to Go template.

[croaky]

Fun fact: this was the original name of this repo back pre-GitHub 2007-ish when it was in a thoughtbot Subversion repo.

[tute]

Note that a Rails Template is a preexisting concept in Rails: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/rails_application_templates.html

[jessieay]

I like the name suspenders! I feel like template makes sense, but I think suspenders is more fun 👖

[mike-burns]

Our hope (my hope? someone's hope) is to move suspenders away from being a command-line tool and toward being a set of rake tasks. Does the idea of suspenders-as-a-template remain consistent with the suspenders-as-rake-tasks perspective?

[toobulkeh]

From a high-level architecture view, suspenders is a template with defaults. Running them as rake tasks after the defaults have already been setup from rails new is... misleading at best?

I don't think launching it from a rake task makes any more sense. The only advantage I immediately see is being able to know which version of suspenders (defaults) the project started with. But that's best held by a date/time in git -- not an artifact in a codebase -- unless "upgrading" is supportable in suspenders, which is more of a process for an Engine, not a template.

[croaky]

Suspenders has staying power.

[toobulkeh]

@mike-burns not sure if this is the right forum for this -- but one thing we've been discussing is how nice it would be to keep all of our projects up to date with core suspenders changes.

Is there such a thing as a framework-wrapper that could be versioned? Would this just be a CLI gem? Could Rails be extended as another framework?

[mike-burns]

@toobulkeh for more history here, see #511, #765, #766, #767, and #855.

[toobulkeh]

TL;DR: No - Suspenders is a generator only. OK.

[nickcharlton]

but one thing we've been discussing is how nice it would be to keep all of our projects up to date with core suspenders changes.

We've spoken a bit about this in London, too (and I presume it's come up elsewhere outside of the issues/PRs @mike-burns linked to). I don't know too much about it, but there is an experiment kicking about looking at doing exactly what you'd quoted. As far as I understand it, it's not the easiest thing to figure out but we're looking into it.

[mike-burns]

There was also the trout era, as can be seen in fbf39d8, 3c11591, 1b4514d, a92abc8, 7b9bffc, and removed in #50.

[toobulkeh]

I knew I wasn't the only one -- thanks for the references, good learnings. @nickcharlton I'd love to see the fruit of those labors -- or help with the laboring if you need a pair.