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Give clown overall and security playtime requirements #25242

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Clown now requires 30 hours of overall playtime and 10 hours of security playtime.

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Too many clowns just slip everyone non-stop and laugh all alone while the entire crew hates them. Most of the time they also cause problems to security and are in general a huge nuisance.
If you're the only one laughing you've failed as a clown, this pr's purpose is to give them some time on the receiving end of unfunny jokes.

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  • tweak: Clown now requires security playtime to make them understand how much of a pain slipping everyone nonstop is.

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god bless

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tutoumi commented Feb 14, 2024

i'm not that type of clown but not based, too much time to wait

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A new player interested in Clown won't care to play Security Cadet properly just to get to it.

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GNF54 commented Feb 14, 2024

based tbh

@AjexRose
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not enough, make the clown more difficult to unlock then the captain /j

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UbaserB commented Feb 14, 2024

this actually kind of makes sense

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Alternatively we could also nerf slipping, like making thrown items not slip people anymore. I mean those objects are in the air how are they ending up beneath peoples feets? I'd like to see some more skillfully performed slips to be honest, throwing is so cheap

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That PR already exists #24494

@potato1234x
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clowns are gonna do the same thing anyway regardless of how much sec they play

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Playtimers really won't solve the issue of clowns being a nuisance or going for purely their own entertainment, which is for the record a very subjective concept.
If someone wishes to try and understand, what are they affecting when slipping an officer who is clearly chasing someone, they could do that on their first round of the game; if they don't, then even a playtimer of 1000h won't resolve the issue.

Is a 10h sec playtimer funny? Kind of, it's ironic that you need sec playtime to play someone who is considered to be sec's nemesis.

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HoidC commented Feb 15, 2024

if they can’t grief as a clown they’ll grief as a passenger

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Service roles intentionally have no role timers to allow new players to easily access low-stakes roleplay roles. Furthermore, clown doesn't have any kind of complex knowledge that justifies needing security playtime, like det or warden. As such, I'm opting to close this PR.

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clown mains stay winning 💪

@Blackern5000 Blackern5000 deleted the screwclowns branch February 19, 2024 20:06
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