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feat: define singular n
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PR summary 546982219fImport changes for modified filesNo significant changes to the import graph Import changes for all files
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Note to self: merge my improvements to the bordism theory branch here, once the dependent PR has landed. |
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First constructions done; the itneresting ones will require being awake -:-)
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E : Type u | ||
/-- `E` is normed (additive) abelian group -/ | ||
[normedAddCommGroup : NormedAddCommGroup E] | ||
/-- `E` is a real normed space -/ | ||
[normedSpace: NormedSpace ℝ E] | ||
/-- The smooth manifold `M` of a singular `n`-manifold `(M,f)` -/ | ||
M : Type u | ||
/-- The smooth manifold `M` is a topological space -/ | ||
[topSpaceM : TopologicalSpace M] | ||
/-- The topological space on which the manifold `M` is modeled -/ | ||
H : Type u | ||
/-- `H` is a topological space -/ | ||
[topSpaceH : TopologicalSpace H] | ||
/-- The smooth manifold `M` is a charted space over `H` -/ | ||
[chartedSpace : ChartedSpace H M] | ||
/-- The model with corners for the manifold `M` -/ | ||
model : ModelWithCorners ℝ E H | ||
/-- `M` is a smooth manifold with corners -/ | ||
[smoothMfd : SmoothManifoldWithCorners model M] | ||
/-- `M` is compact -/ | ||
[compactSpace : CompactSpace M] | ||
/-- `M` is boundaryless -/ | ||
[boundaryless: BoundarylessManifold model M] | ||
/-- `M` is finite-dimensional, as its model space `E` is -/ | ||
[findim: FiniteDimensional ℝ E] | ||
/-- `M` is `n`-dimensional, as its model space `E` is -/ | ||
[dimension : finrank ℝ E = n] |
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I'd suggest that you use EuclideanSpace ℝ n
and get rid of E
and H
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This makes speaking about products more difficult: when talking about products of bordism classes and the (un)oriented bordism ring, that would be needed. Why would you use euclidean space instead?
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I have changed my mind again, to parametrising the definition over E
and H
instead: this allows disjoint unions (which require the same model space) and products (take ModelProd
), but does not close the door to using EuclideanSpace R n
in applications.
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Can you sketch a little bit more the maths behind this, which I don't know? (For me, a cobordism between two manifolds M and N is a manifold one dimension higher with two boundary components which are diffeomorphic to M and N respectively, but I don't see how your singular manifolds fit into this picture). Either in the file-level docstring, or in the PR, as you prefer.
I think it would help me a lot to see a theorem which is proved with this formalism (the proof of the pudding is in the eating). Do you have a working branch with a specific theorem you could point me to, so that I get a better grasp of where you want to go? (Ideally you could even open a PR with a work in progress branch, for easier discussion there)
Co-authored-by: sgouezel <[email protected]> Co-authored-by: Yaël Dillies <[email protected]>
The PR description links to master...MR-bordism-theory |
Thanks for the review! I agree that not everything is self-explanatory; let me expand on the background. About bordisms: the first time I heard about cobordisms, it was the definition you mentioned. The general definition involves an additional map: two singular n-manifolds (M,f:M\to X) and (N,g:N\to X) are cobordant if there's a cobordism between them --- which is a compact (n+1)-manifold W together with a map F\to X such that
In particular, if X is a one-point space, one arrives at the definition you give. References. I learned this from my advisor's course (see these notes, week 14). I'm just formalising parts of the first page... as formalisation takes more time and space so far. Bigger picture for this PR. As Yael mentioned, this branch has my overall work so far, leading up to defining the unoriented bordism groups. At the end, I realised I needed to change the design of singular n-manifolds (to the current one); I haven't gone through and adapted all of that branch yet. When I do, it shouldn't be too hard to prover that the unordered bordism group is a group. |
I have just adapted this PR to latest master, and also
There are three sorries remaining, but none of them is mathematically problematic (nor interesting). |
Actually, the other sorry is interesting. I'll think about it more and update this PR accordingly. TODO: this PR was updated, write a comment here explaining my choices. Perhaps after polishing the boundary PR and submitting the definition of bordism groups. |
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- **SingularNManifold**: a singular `n`-manifold on a topological space `X`, for `n ∈ ℕ`, is a pair | ||
`(M, f)` of a closed `n`-dimensional smooth manifold `M` together with a continuous map `M → X`. | ||
We don't assume `M` to be modelled on `ℝ^n` (nor to be using with the standard model), |
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We don't assume `M` to be modelled on `ℝ^n` (nor to be using with the standard model), | |
We don't assume `M` to be modelled on `ℝ^n` (nor to be using with the standard model), |
I'm not sure I understand the parenthesis here. Could you clarify?
Currently, this file only contains the definition of *singular *n*-manifolds*: | ||
bordism classes are the equivalence classes of singular n-manifolds w.r.t. the (co)bordism relation | ||
and will be added in a future PR, as well as the definition of the (unoriented) bordism groups. | ||
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Could you expand a little bit the docstring here, to explain what singular n
manifolds are: it's not manifolds where you allow some singularities (which is what the name seems to indicate), it's rather a smooth manifold enriched with a continuous map to a topological space X
. Also explain that, for X = a point
, you just get manifolds in the usual sense. And maybe sketch an example of something that can be done with this formalism but which can not be done using manifolds in the usual sense?
Note that wikipedia, for instance, only defines bordism in the usual sense (where two manifolds are cobordant if they are the boundaries of a one-dimensional higher manifold), so it's a little bit surprising to say that you are doing "the beginnings of bordism" and go directly to a slightly exotic setting. So I think this deserves big warnings, and motivation in the docstring.
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I will expand this doc-string (thanks for providing some hints). However, let me say that your claim about wikipedia is not fully correct: it mentions bordism groups as an extraordinary cohomology theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobordism#Cobordism_as_an_extraordinary_cohomology_theory. There are absolute and relative bordism groups; wikipedia only hints at this fact (and mostly mentions the absolute ones).
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You're absolutely right! What got me is that I looked for the word "singular" in the wikipedia page and didn't find it. Is the terminology "singular manifold" for a manifold together with a map to X
completely standard?
simp [Function.comp_def] | ||
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-- Let M' and W be real C^k manifolds. |
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I don't see W
below
/-- The disjoint union of two singular `n`-manifolds on `X` is a singular `n`-manifold on `X`. -/ | ||
-- We need to choose a model space for the disjoint union (as a priori `s` and `t` could be | ||
-- modelled on very different spaces: for simplicity, we choose `ℝ^n`; all real work is contained | ||
-- in the two instances above. | ||
def sum {n : ℕ} (s t : SingularNManifold X n k I) [finrank: Fact (finrank ℝ E = n)] : | ||
SingularNManifold X n k I where |
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I am confused by the design and the comment here. One you fix I
, you are fixing the model space, so by definition s
and t
have the same model space, and there is nothing special to do: just use I
also for the disjoint union. On the other hand, it makes me realize that the parameter n
is completely useless in all the story, as it is also determined by I
(it's the dimension of the target space of I
). So why not just remove it completely from the definition of SingularNManifold
(and from the whole file)?
Co-authored-by: Sebastien Gouezel <[email protected]>
This dimension condition *is* important when defining bordism groups, but I'd have to think (and, presumably, experiment with the different possible designs) to if/how that condition is necessary. Maybe, n-bordism groups are parametrised on a model with corners (and a proof that I has n-dimensional model space) --- so the standard bordism groups are just with respect to modelWithCornersSelf, and one would prove that equivalent models yield isomorphic groups? Or we do want n as a type parameter? I am not sure yet, need to think!!
Thanks for the review comments! I responded to some of your comments/addressed the easier ones (which were very helpful). This PR will require some more polish on my parts - leaving as awaiting-author until I've had the time to address them. |
These are used to define bordism groups: the
n
-bordism group of a topological spaceX
is the space of cobordism classes of all singularn
-manifolds onX
.This PR can be seen in context in this branch (old version; more updated version (in progress) is here.
#22059 (still in progress) defines manifolds with smooth boundary; very soon, I'll file a PR depending on this and #22059 for the definition of bordism groups.