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@xezon xezon commented Jun 21, 2023

This change replaces 40% of Rangers with Missile Defenders in USA Paradrops.

The latin localization has been updated accordingly.

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Paradrop Level 1: 5 Ranger
Paradrop Level 2: 10 Ranger
Paradrop Level 3: 20 Ranger

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Paradrop Level 1: 3 Rangers + 2 Missile Defenders
Paradrop Level 2: 6 Rangers + 4 Missile Defenders
Paradrop Level 3: 12 Rangers + 8 Missile Defenders

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Rationale

The original USA Paradrop is seldom used, because the Spectre Gunship and A10 powers are typically better value than a group of Rangers. The newly added Missile Defenders increase the usefulness of the Paradrop, because it can now also engage vehicles, helicopters and planes in both offense and defense.

The maximum monetary value of the spawned infantry increases by 600, from 4500 to 5100.

@xezon xezon added Design Is a matter of game design Controversial Is controversial Major Severity: Minor < Major < Critical < Blocker Buff Makes a thing more powerful USA Affects USA faction labels Jun 21, 2023
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code: good
translation: no idea

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xezon commented Jun 29, 2023

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Like it but not sure. 2 MDs for first drop seems fine but the 8 seem like quite a lot.

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I feel the opposite way, 2 MD's with level 1 feels like a bigger buff than 8 with level 3 to me, because it's a huge sacrifice to spent so many points on paradrop and not on meta powers. Spending only 1 point is easier to consider. Overall I think the changes are fine, because something is needed to make it an attractive alternative to meta powers.

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xezon commented Jun 30, 2023

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I like the current setup

@xezon xezon force-pushed the tweak-usa-paradrop-payload branch from 21c513c to 82a972d Compare July 1, 2023 11:14
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xezon commented Jul 1, 2023

Documentation added. Looks good.

@xezon xezon merged commit 54565f8 into main Jul 1, 2023
@xezon xezon deleted the tweak-usa-paradrop-payload branch July 1, 2023 11:18
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xezon commented Jul 4, 2023

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Very strong upgrade. I do not think it is a good idea. Because in late game, if you will drop these guys, then almost no chance to kill them if opponent has low money and some units. 8 Missile Defenders on Level 3 looks too hard.

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@ItsWazzaP ItsWazzaP added the GameMismatchWith104 Affects game state towards original 1.04 label Mar 6, 2025
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ImTimK commented Mar 20, 2025

40% looks a little too OP for me, the MD's can do a lot of damage in different stages of the game, like killing expensive landed Aircraft or hunting Dozers.

My proposal is:

  • Keep level 1 like original, no MD's.
  • 2 MD's with level 2.
  • 4 MD's with level 3.

I realize this is still powerful, however every promotion spent on the Paradrop, can't be spent on the A10, which is a huge sacrifice. Therefore level 2 and 3 definitely need a considerable buff.

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xezon commented Mar 20, 2025

Would be good if this was tested.

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