Evaluate translation systems/platforms

[craigh]

https://lingohub.com/ as translation resource.@gfr

[Guite]

To summarise there are four candidates to compare:

1. LingoHub
2. POEditor
3. Transifex
4. Translala (from Slack: https://medium.com/@ScullWM/manage-symfony-app-translation-with-translala-7628fbab7447#.yuffpsotx)

[rallek]

I still would like a solution inside our system. We discussed it during the last camp zikula.

What is my proposal:
If the special translation mode is switched on after (or before) every translated string (or still not translated) a symbol appears. You can click on this symbol which opens a modal window with the original string and a field with your translation (or empty if untranslated). When saving this translation is written into the corresponding po file.

Another proposal was something similar as Jenkins is doing. There you can get all strings of the current page for translation.

In both cases you are using the current locale situation for translation. The big benefit we have is that the translator knows the context of this translation. This will increase the quality of the translations a lot. @cmfcmf did have an idea how this might be possible.

In parallel with the above mentioned candidates this would bring us a pretty good translation system.

This inside translation system would be an outstanding capability of zikula!

[Guite]

Translating inside the system is actually already possible, but disabled at the moment.
https://github.com/zikula/core/blob/1.5/src/app/config/routing_dev.yml#L13

For enabling the translation system we need this:
schmittjoh/JMSTranslationBundle#355

There is also a PR available but not merged yet:
schmittjoh/JMSTranslationBundle#411

[Guite]

Going to take a thorough look at this and #1895 soon.

[rallek]

By random I found another interesting translation platform: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate. They do have a service for free software: https://weblate.org/en/hosting/#free

[rallek]

a combination of crowdin and poedit might be also nice
https://crowdin.com/page/open-source-project-setup-request

[Guite]

https://jolicode.com/blog/how-to-properly-manage-translations-in-symfony

[rallek]

#2820 is describing an idea what I now found on http://php-translation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/symfony/edit-in-place.html
I do like the link of @Guite to jolicode.com. There are a lot of great features possible with php-translator (http://php-translation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html) I would like to see in Zikula.

[Guite]

a lot of great features possible with php-translator

http://php-translation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/symfony/webui.html

[Guite]

Translating inside the system is actually already possible, but disabled at the moment.
https://github.com/zikula/core/blob/1.5/src/app/config/routing_dev.yml#L13

For enabling the translation system we need this:
schmittjoh/JMSTranslationBundle#355

There is also a PR available but not merged yet:
schmittjoh/JMSTranslationBundle#411

The way for this is now free! The dependency has been removed in the meanwhile.
So the current proposal by @rallek @gfr @Guite and @trichers is : utilise the WebUI of JMSTranslationBundle instead of relying on any external service.

[Guite]

just for reference: https://github.com/zikula/i18n-portal

[Guite]

Closing in favour of #4012

FYI: two nice new translation features are coming into Zikula 3 as part of #4012:

1. Edit in Place
   https://php-translation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_images/edit-in-place-demo.gif

2. WebUI
   https://php-translation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_images/webui-dashboard.png
   https://php-translation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_images/webui-page.png