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Missing alternates for eng.sc; Eng.alt2 seems redundant #161

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brawer opened this issue May 8, 2017 · 3 comments
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Missing alternates for eng.sc; Eng.alt2 seems redundant #161

brawer opened this issue May 8, 2017 · 3 comments

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@brawer
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brawer commented May 8, 2017

For Noto Sans, would it make sense to add small-caps variants whose design matches Eng.alt1 and Eng.alt3? Without eng.sc.alt1 and eng.sc.alt3 (or whatever those glyphs would be called), languages that require a variant Eng (such as certain African languages) cannot be correctly displayed in small caps.

Also, should Eng.alt2 be removed? It looks like a duplicate of Eng.

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@brawer brawer changed the title Missing smallcaps for Eng.alt1 and Eng.alt3; Eng.alt2 seems redundant Missing alternates for eng.sc; Eng.alt2 seems redundant May 8, 2017
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brawer commented May 8, 2017

According to @andjc, some languages use an n variant of Eng without descender. Currently, this variant is missing from Noto Sans. Perhaps Eng.alt2 was intended to be that variant? Not sure how it should look; perhaps like this?

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Here are PDF files with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Guinea Kpelle, rendered with the current draft for the next version of Noto {Sans,SansMono,SansDisplay,Serif,SerifDisplay} {Regular,Italic} -- all possible Noto fonts. More languages are at https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts-alpha/tree/master/udhr-test/basic-width-weights

gkp_udhr_Sans_Italic.pdf
gkp_udhr_Sans_Regular.pdf
gkp_udhr_SansDisplay_Italic.pdf
gkp_udhr_SansDisplay_Regular.pdf
gkp_udhr_SansMono_Regular.pdf
gkp_udhr_Serif_Italic.pdf
gkp_udhr_Serif_Regular.pdf
gkp_udhr_SerifDisplay_Italic.pdf
gkp_udhr_SerifDisplay_Regular.pdf

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Looking at this again:

  • Eng.alt2 does appear to be redundant.
  • Yes, eng.sc should have alternate forms as well.
  • Eng.alt1/alt3 could do with locl rules to select them in appropriate languages. Neil Patel suggests that lug would be one language that needs it.
  • It would probably also be wise to have a stylistic set for Eng selection as well.

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