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Use Nextcloud tag system #310

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spoorun opened this issue Aug 28, 2017 · 4 comments
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Use Nextcloud tag system #310

spoorun opened this issue Aug 28, 2017 · 4 comments
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@spoorun
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spoorun commented Aug 28, 2017

  1. Rename 'groups' (categories) to 'tags'
    (As groups has a specific meaning when syncing with other CardDAV systems - a Group contact is a single contact containing others)

  2. Utilise the Nextcloud tag system so User benefits from using the same tags and a better (and consistent) tag ecosystem and UI can develop, and eventually the User can use the same UI for each app when searching/applying tags.

@spoorun spoorun changed the title Use Nextcloud tag system for categories/groups Use Nextcloud tag system Aug 28, 2017
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skjnldsv commented Aug 28, 2017

We're a simple dav reader, we can't and won't use nc tags. We're only focusing on the carddav rfc compliance.

For the groups/tags nomenclature, groups is far much understandable for the vast majority of our users! :)

@irgendwie, @Henni your opinion?

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spoorun commented Aug 28, 2017

@skjnldsv Fairplay, you know better about the technical limitations, and keeping it slim.

Indeed, on testing, most mobile device apps know treat tags and actual group contacts interchangeably.
Users are then free to use 'Groups' as tags or groups.

Though Users think of their contacts app as a contacts app, that complements their workflow, they compare it with other contacts apps functionality, and are generally agnostic to the technical challenges, especially when they see other apps managing (admittedly not in the area of semantic tagging).

But using 'categories' to represent 'groups' is really a hack, and falls foul of the point of the vCard spec.
It's unfortunate that we don't figure a way to use the actual 'GROUP' vCard kind instead to represent groups, and 'category' to represent a tag, as intended in the specs. Or is that not feasible?

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Maybe nextcloud/server#693 will earn your interest then.
If this gets implemented, we could have the same groups for the contacts.

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»Groups« is the commonly understood and used name for, well, Groups of people. Hence we use it and will keep using that. :)

The Files app tags have little to do with that actually.

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