Warning message while using update.qubes-vm salt (Setuptools is replacing distutils)

[Minimalist73]

Qubes OS release

4.1

Brief summary

A warning (Setuptools is replacing distutils) is appearing while using the qubes-vm update salt.

Steps to reproduce

• Set default-mgmt-dvm to Fedora-37
• Open a dom0 terminal
• Use the update.qubes-vm salt:
  • qubesctl --show-output --skip-dom0 --targets VM state.apply update.qubes-vm
• Following warning appear between results:

  /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/_distutils_hack/__init__.py:33: UserWarning: Setuptools is replacing distutils.
  warnings.warn("Setuptools is replacing distutils.")
  

Expected behavior

Warning should not appear.

Actual behavior

Warning message is appearing about replacing distutils with Setuptools.

[Solomon1732]

I got it too. Here is the reason:

distutils is deprecated with removal planned for Python 3.12. See the What’s New entry for more information.

https://docs.python.org/3/library/distutils.html
This page recommends setuptools as the alternative. What's more, it states that pip runs all of its setup.py with it.

More information on the deprecation (from the "What's New" link:):

The entire distutils package is deprecated, to be removed in Python 3.12. Its functionality for specifying package builds has already been completely replaced by third-party packages setuptools and packaging, and most other commonly used APIs are available elsewhere in the standard library (such as platform, shutil, subprocess or sysconfig). There are no plans to migrate any other functionality from distutils, and applications that are using other functions should plan to make private copies of the code. Refer to PEP 632 for discussion.

The bdist_wininst command deprecated in Python 3.8 has been removed. The bdist_wheel command is now recommended to distribute binary packages on Windows. (Contributed by Victor Stinner in bpo-42802.)

https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.10.html#distutils-deprecated

[Solomon1732]

Is there any progress on this issue? A used unit being removed in 3.12 looks non-trivial.

[marmarek]

This is tracked in salt here: saltstack/salt#60476
In short: newer salt (supposedly) have it fixed, whatever template will ship with python 3.12, it should have such newer salt included. There is not really any need to do here in existing template (other than a bit annoying warning message).

[catalyst1987]

This is tracked in salt here: saltstack/salt#60476 In short: newer salt (supposedly) have it fixed, whatever template will ship with python 3.12, it should have such newer salt included. There is not really any need to do here in existing template (other than a bit annoying warning message).

So do new templates need a fix then for this? I ask because I created a debian 12 template and get this error when trying to update it.

[marmarek]

It's mostly relevant what versions you have in the template for default-mgmt-dvm, not the target qube you are updating. Note debian-12 doesn't have salt at all

[DemiMarie]

@marmarek can we somehow prevent users from using debian-12 as a management qube? IMO we should really ship a stateless management qube.

[marmarek]

@marmarek can we somehow prevent users from using debian-12 as a management qube?

I don't think that's the case above, it's about debian-12 as update target, not management qube.

[Nurmagoz]

in 4.2 as well:

[Solomon1732]

@TNTBOMBOM its cause is upstream technical debt. Check out the following issues: saltstack/salt#64267, saltstack/salt#64266, saltstack/salt#64265, saltstack/salt#64264, saltstack/salt#64263